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=================================================================== From : Mistral To : ArcaneStomper Date : 2012-04-22 13:42 Title : Re: TW 2126: EoT 4

[QUOTE=ArcaneStomper]MIL: 3 1. Well when I gave my orders last turn I wasn't expecting an actual invasion to happen. So I guess the Southern Federation is going to war after all. Send all 3 of my mil to the front to support the Andean Union. Mostly they'll do what the Andean Union commanders plan, but they have special orders regarding the space elevator if the counter elevator. Mainly try to take it intact, try and take the blueprints for it. but be careful that the Tamoachan don't drop it on them.

ECO: 2 1. All my economy will go into the People Helping People organization. Hopefully that will give it a good kick start.

ESP: 9 1. All of my espionage will go behind Tamoachan lines to sabotage their supply lines and generally wreak havoc in their logistics so that their military is weakened. Maybe my agents can even capture some military hardware if they do well enough. I would prefer if my agents hid their existence. Not to the extent that the Tamoachan don't know whats happening or even who is behind it, but I'd rather they didn't get an accurate count of my agents if possible.

TEC: 7 1. 2 will go into working with the UK, [and the others] on the new more efficient propulsion designs. Since the UK has apparently already designed the lasers I will work on the other end and design space ships capable of using the lasers as a power source. Also I would like to add the work I've done on my space station in here. So that it can be refit into a dockyard for the construction of these ships.

2. The other 5 will go into identifying the genetic basis of psionics. The goal is to both strengthen the psionics I already have, identify other candidates, and maybe even allow for genetically engineering the ability into other people.

MOR: 6 1. All my propaganda will go into encouraging my soldiers to fight the Tamochan, and my people to support them. I will note that the isolationism thing is a front only for other countries. I'm sure that most of my people are involved some way or another with my intelligence agencies and know what the real plans are. So publicly we will denounce Tamoachan for this unwarranted aggression and proclaim that while we might be isolationist we aren't willing to let people start trouble on our own doorstep either. Privately and quietly my people will be told that this is another strong step in the plans of the AIA. If Tamoachan is pushed out not only will we gain the friendship of the Andean Union, but Brazil will also regard us as capable of fulfilling our promises. Both good things for our work of controlling things from behind the scenes with words and spies rather than open force. REP: 21. This will go into increasing the spread of People Helping People and helping the organization grow in other countries.[/QUOTE] MIL: 3 ECO: 2 ESP: 7 TEC: 7 MOR: 6 REP: 2

The Andean War: In the Andes, the armies of Tamoanchan continue to advance. With reinforcement from the Southern Federation and Brazil, they are brought to a halt outside Lima. Intelligence assets infiltrating enemy lines are vulnerable, however, and the loyalty of the Tamoanchan people goes a long ways in preventing the Southern Federation’s efforts from being successful. [Southern Federation loses 2 ESP.] Southern Federation: 9 ESP (9d8)=34 Tamoanchan: 7 MOR + 5 ESP (12d8)=69

Southern Federation: 3 MIL (3d8)=16 Brazil: 2 MIL (2d8)=7 Andean Union: 2 MIL (2d8)=8 (TOTL. 31) Tamoanchan: 6 MIL (6d8)=28

Further east, Brazilian forces enter Venezuela unopposed, except for by hastily-assembled militias. Their rate of advance is rapid, and if they continue at the present rate, it is probable that Tamoanchan’s military forces will be forced to withdraw or be cut off.

The Lunar Empire has also given to all USC nations their blueprints for a fusion engine. [USC nations gain trait ‘Fusion Engine I’. Doubles speed to other planets. Does NOT stack with other engine types.]

People Helping People has begun to expand its operations, including in China, where it has been asked to aid in the reconstruction of Tibet. OOC: How linked to you do you want PHP to be? Completely secret as in the information broker, or publically known as an NGO linked to the Southern Federation’s philanthropic side?

Your recruitment drive has begun to draw people to the banner. OOC: A secret’s secrecy is inversely proportional to the people who know it. It’s fine if your entire nation knows it, but if that’s the case, then your isolationism really should be known internationally as a sham. That said, I’ll accept that your denouncement of Tamoanchan will have the necessary effect without requiring your people to be “in on it”, so to speak.

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=================================================================== From : Mistral To : ArcaneStomper Date : 2012-04-22 14:32 Title : Re: TW 2126: EoT 4

[QUOTE=ArcaneStomper][QUOTE=Mistral][QUOTE=ArcaneStomper]MIL: 3 1. Well when I gave my orders last turn I wasn't expecting an actual invasion to happen. So I guess the Southern Federation is going to war after all. Send all 3 of my mil to the front to support the Andean Union. Mostly they'll do what the Andean Union commanders plan, but they have special orders regarding the space elevator if the counter elevator. Mainly try to take it intact, try and take the blueprints for it. but be careful that the Tamoachan don't drop it on them.

ECO: 2 1. All my economy will go into the People Helping People organization. Hopefully that will give it a good kick start.

ESP: 9 1. All of my espionage will go behind Tamoachan lines to sabotage their supply lines and generally wreak havoc in their logistics so that their military is weakened. Maybe my agents can even capture some military hardware if they do well enough. I would prefer if my agents hid their existence. Not to the extent that the Tamoachan don't know whats happening or even who is behind it, but I'd rather they didn't get an accurate count of my agents if possible.

TEC: 7 1. 2 will go into working with the UK, [and the others] on the new more efficient propulsion designs. Since the UK has apparently already designed the lasers I will work on the other end and design space ships capable of using the lasers as a power source. Also I would like to add the work I've done on my space station in here. So that it can be refit into a dockyard for the construction of these ships.

2. The other 5 will go into identifying the genetic basis of psionics. The goal is to both strengthen the psionics I already have, identify other candidates, and maybe even allow for genetically engineering the ability into other people.

MOR: 6 1. All my propaganda will go into encouraging my soldiers to fight the Tamochan, and my people to support them. I will note that the isolationism thing is a front only for other countries. I'm sure that most of my people are involved some way or another with my intelligence agencies and know what the real plans are. So publicly we will denounce Tamoachan for this unwarranted aggression and proclaim that while we might be isolationist we aren't willing to let people start trouble on our own doorstep either. Privately and quietly my people will be told that this is another strong step in the plans of the AIA. If Tamoachan is pushed out not only will we gain the friendship of the Andean Union, but Brazil will also regard us as capable of fulfilling our promises. Both good things for our work of controlling things from behind the scenes with words and spies rather than open force. REP: 21. This will go into increasing the spread of People Helping People and helping the organization grow in other countries.[/QUOTE] MIL: 3 ECO: 2 ESP: 7 TEC: 7 MOR: 6 REP: 2

The Andean War: In the Andes, the armies of Tamoanchan continue to advance. With reinforcement from the Southern Federation and Brazil, they are brought to a halt outside Lima. Intelligence assets infiltrating enemy lines are vulnerable, however, and the loyalty of the Tamoanchan people goes a long ways in preventing the Southern Federation’s efforts from being successful. [Southern Federation loses 2 ESP.] Southern Federation: 9 ESP (9d8)=34 Tamoanchan: 7 MOR + 5 ESP (12d8)=69

Southern Federation: 3 MIL (3d8)=16 Brazil: 2 MIL (2d8)=7 Andean Union: 2 MIL (2d8)=8 (TOTL. 31) Tamoanchan: 6 MIL (6d8)=28

Further east, Brazilian forces enter Venezuela unopposed, except for by hastily-assembled militias. Their rate of advance is rapid, and if they continue at the present rate, it is probable that Tamoanchan’s military forces will be forced to withdraw or be cut off.

The Lunar Empire has also given to all USC nations their blueprints for a fusion engine. [USC nations gain trait ‘Fusion Engine I’. Doubles speed to other planets. Does NOT stack with other engine types.]

People Helping People has begun to expand its operations, including in China, where it has been asked to aid in the reconstruction of Tibet. OOC: How linked to you do you want PHP to be? Completely secret as in the information broker, or publically known as an NGO linked to the Southern Federation’s philanthropic side?

Your recruitment drive has begun to draw people to the banner. OOC: A secret’s secrecy is inversely proportional to the people who know it. It’s fine if your entire nation knows it, but if that’s the case, then your isolationism really should be known internationally as a sham. That said, I’ll accept that your denouncement of Tamoanchan will have the necessary effect without requiring your people to be “in on it”, so to speak.[/QUOTE]

How did my research projects go?

I want the People Helping People to be publicaly linked. It's not controlled by the government, but it's based in the Southern Federation, and has support from the people.

Did my morale go into recruiting more soldiers or heloing my existing soldiers fight?

Most of the people probably don't know, but the ones in my intelligence agencies would. Since it was my largest asset I assumed that it was also the largest single employer in the Southern Federation. So a large proportion of citizens would know to some extent, but its their jobs to keep it a secret.[/QUOTE]

OOC: Thanks for that clarification. With that in mind, I can do this. [Southern Federation gains 1 REP.]

Morale went to recruitment.

Nah, not all stats are equal, per se, or rather, they're equal in effect rather than in volume. Plus, one of the first things intelligence agencies deal with is compartmentalization and "need to know". Presumably, most people don't have "need to know" access to high-level strategy and planning, just like in real life, so most people aren't told, precisely to keep security. If you want to breach that, it's fine, but it seemed like it would be contrary to what you wanted, and it will make infiltration much easier for no tangible gain.

Research projects as follows: Psionics - Some progress has been made in identifying the myriad genetic components that together comprise psionics, but more research into your genetic engineering project would help as well. You are also working on improving the strength of their telepathic abilities.

The British didn't mention any joint projects with the Southern Federation in their EoT, so I put everything into Psionics.

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=================================================================== From : Mistral To : ArcaneStomper Date : 2012-04-22 14:48 Title : Re: TW 2126: EoT 4

[QUOTE=ArcaneStomper][QUOTE=Mistral][QUOTE=ArcaneStomper][QUOTE=Mistral][QUOTE=ArcaneStomper]MIL: 3 1. Well when I gave my orders last turn I wasn't expecting an actual invasion to happen. So I guess the Southern Federation is going to war after all. Send all 3 of my mil to the front to support the Andean Union. Mostly they'll do what the Andean Union commanders plan, but they have special orders regarding the space elevator if the counter elevator. Mainly try to take it intact, try and take the blueprints for it. but be careful that the Tamoachan don't drop it on them.

ECO: 2 1. All my economy will go into the People Helping People organization. Hopefully that will give it a good kick start.

ESP: 9 1. All of my espionage will go behind Tamoachan lines to sabotage their supply lines and generally wreak havoc in their logistics so that their military is weakened. Maybe my agents can even capture some military hardware if they do well enough. I would prefer if my agents hid their existence. Not to the extent that the Tamoachan don't know whats happening or even who is behind it, but I'd rather they didn't get an accurate count of my agents if possible.

TEC: 7 1. 2 will go into working with the UK, [and the others] on the new more efficient propulsion designs. Since the UK has apparently already designed the lasers I will work on the other end and design space ships capable of using the lasers as a power source. Also I would like to add the work I've done on my space station in here. So that it can be refit into a dockyard for the construction of these ships.

2. The other 5 will go into identifying the genetic basis of psionics. The goal is to both strengthen the psionics I already have, identify other candidates, and maybe even allow for genetically engineering the ability into other people.

MOR: 6 1. All my propaganda will go into encouraging my soldiers to fight the Tamochan, and my people to support them. I will note that the isolationism thing is a front only for other countries. I'm sure that most of my people are involved some way or another with my intelligence agencies and know what the real plans are. So publicly we will denounce Tamoachan for this unwarranted aggression and proclaim that while we might be isolationist we aren't willing to let people start trouble on our own doorstep either. Privately and quietly my people will be told that this is another strong step in the plans of the AIA. If Tamoachan is pushed out not only will we gain the friendship of the Andean Union, but Brazil will also regard us as capable of fulfilling our promises. Both good things for our work of controlling things from behind the scenes with words and spies rather than open force. REP: 21. This will go into increasing the spread of People Helping People and helping the organization grow in other countries.[/QUOTE] MIL: 3 ECO: 2 ESP: 7 TEC: 7 MOR: 6 REP: 2

The Andean War: In the Andes, the armies of Tamoanchan continue to advance. With reinforcement from the Southern Federation and Brazil, they are brought to a halt outside Lima. Intelligence assets infiltrating enemy lines are vulnerable, however, and the loyalty of the Tamoanchan people goes a long ways in preventing the Southern Federation’s efforts from being successful. [Southern Federation loses 2 ESP.] Southern Federation: 9 ESP (9d8)=34 Tamoanchan: 7 MOR + 5 ESP (12d8)=69

Southern Federation: 3 MIL (3d8)=16 Brazil: 2 MIL (2d8)=7 Andean Union: 2 MIL (2d8)=8 (TOTL. 31) Tamoanchan: 6 MIL (6d8)=28

Further east, Brazilian forces enter Venezuela unopposed, except for by hastily-assembled militias. Their rate of advance is rapid, and if they continue at the present rate, it is probable that Tamoanchan’s military forces will be forced to withdraw or be cut off.

The Lunar Empire has also given to all USC nations their blueprints for a fusion engine. [USC nations gain trait ‘Fusion Engine I’. Doubles speed to other planets. Does NOT stack with other engine types.]

People Helping People has begun to expand its operations, including in China, where it has been asked to aid in the reconstruction of Tibet. OOC: How linked to you do you want PHP to be? Completely secret as in the information broker, or publically known as an NGO linked to the Southern Federation’s philanthropic side?

Your recruitment drive has begun to draw people to the banner. OOC: A secret’s secrecy is inversely proportional to the people who know it. It’s fine if your entire nation knows it, but if that’s the case, then your isolationism really should be known internationally as a sham. That said, I’ll accept that your denouncement of Tamoanchan will have the necessary effect without requiring your people to be “in on it”, so to speak.[/QUOTE]

How did my research projects go?

I want the People Helping People to be publicaly linked. It's not controlled by the government, but it's based in the Southern Federation, and has support from the people.

Did my morale go into recruiting more soldiers or heloing my existing soldiers fight?

Most of the people probably don't know, but the ones in my intelligence agencies would. Since it was my largest asset I assumed that it was also the largest single employer in the Southern Federation. So a large proportion of citizens would know to some extent, but its their jobs to keep it a secret.[/QUOTE]

OOC: Thanks for that clarification. With that in mind, I can do this. [Southern Federation gains 1 REP.]

Morale went to recruitment.

Nah, not all stats are equal, per se, or rather, they're equal in effect rather than in volume. Plus, one of the first things intelligence agencies deal with is compartmentalization and "need to know". Presumably, most people don't have "need to know" access to high-level strategy and planning, just like in real life, so most people aren't told, precisely to keep security. If you want to breach that, it's fine, but it seemed like it would be contrary to what you wanted, and it will make infiltration much easier for no tangible gain.

Research projects as follows: Psionics - Some progress has been made in identifying the myriad genetic components that together comprise psionics, but more research into your genetic engineering project would help as well. You are also working on improving the strength of their telepathic abilities.

The British didn't mention any joint projects with the Southern Federation in their EoT, so I put everything into Psionics.[/QUOTE]

And the UK complained that no one helped them last turn. :smallmad: Well I guess I'll stick to my psionics then. Can I get an estimate from my scientists as to the status of the genetic foundation project?

I will leave my espionage alone. I already took more losses than I was expecting there. Don't need to make things worse.

I know this is kind of metagaming, but I have a question about my military recruitment. From my observations of previous turns every time I have tried to simply increase my stats in the past turns, I have done so at a rate of 6 t. for 1 p. stat, occasionally that 6 being invested over multiple turns. The exception being when a trait is being built instead of or as well as stats. So the question is, I put in 6 morale and it seems like it would be a straightforward enough investment. So why didn't I get out + mil? I can understand if you don't want to answer that or if there is something in the rules I do not know.[/QUOTE]

Half a year at the same investment, give or take on how the genetic engineering project goes. You started that project as well but never finished it, and you won't be able to genetically create or improve psionics without a thorough understanding of the human genome (which is not just the genes themselves, but what they actually do).

No problem. I'm actually tweaking MOR contributions to growth rates. Since it always contributes to ESP-D, can be spent on anything in addition to that contribution, provides a safety margin against the bad things that happen when it hits 0, and basically slices, dices, and juliennes fries, I'm looking at reducing its effect on stat growth for primary stats (shooty, buildy, spyey, and thinky). Because 100% increase rates on top of that seems really, really good.

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=================================================================== From : Mistral To : ArcaneStomper Date : 2012-04-23 09:57 Title : Re: TW 2126: EoT 4

[QUOTE=ArcaneStomper][QUOTE=Mistral][QUOTE=ArcaneStomper][QUOTE=Mistral][QUOTE=ArcaneStomper][QUOTE=Mistral][QUOTE=ArcaneStomper]MIL: 3 1. Well when I gave my orders last turn I wasn't expecting an actual invasion to happen. So I guess the Southern Federation is going to war after all. Send all 3 of my mil to the front to support the Andean Union. Mostly they'll do what the Andean Union commanders plan, but they have special orders regarding the space elevator if the counter elevator. Mainly try to take it intact, try and take the blueprints for it. but be careful that the Tamoachan don't drop it on them.

ECO: 2 1. All my economy will go into the People Helping People organization. Hopefully that will give it a good kick start.

ESP: 9 1. All of my espionage will go behind Tamoachan lines to sabotage their supply lines and generally wreak havoc in their logistics so that their military is weakened. Maybe my agents can even capture some military hardware if they do well enough. I would prefer if my agents hid their existence. Not to the extent that the Tamoachan don't know whats happening or even who is behind it, but I'd rather they didn't get an accurate count of my agents if possible.

TEC: 7 1. 2 will go into working with the UK, [and the others] on the new more efficient propulsion designs. Since the UK has apparently already designed the lasers I will work on the other end and design space ships capable of using the lasers as a power source. Also I would like to add the work I've done on my space station in here. So that it can be refit into a dockyard for the construction of these ships.

2. The other 5 will go into identifying the genetic basis of psionics. The goal is to both strengthen the psionics I already have, identify other candidates, and maybe even allow for genetically engineering the ability into other people.

MOR: 6 1. All my propaganda will go into encouraging my soldiers to fight the Tamochan, and my people to support them. I will note that the isolationism thing is a front only for other countries. I'm sure that most of my people are involved some way or another with my intelligence agencies and know what the real plans are. So publicly we will denounce Tamoachan for this unwarranted aggression and proclaim that while we might be isolationist we aren't willing to let people start trouble on our own doorstep either. Privately and quietly my people will be told that this is another strong step in the plans of the AIA. If Tamoachan is pushed out not only will we gain the friendship of the Andean Union, but Brazil will also regard us as capable of fulfilling our promises. Both good things for our work of controlling things from behind the scenes with words and spies rather than open force. REP: 21. This will go into increasing the spread of People Helping People and helping the organization grow in other countries.[/QUOTE] MIL: 3 ECO: 2 ESP: 7 TEC: 7 MOR: 6 REP: 2

The Andean War: In the Andes, the armies of Tamoanchan continue to advance. With reinforcement from the Southern Federation and Brazil, they are brought to a halt outside Lima. Intelligence assets infiltrating enemy lines are vulnerable, however, and the loyalty of the Tamoanchan people goes a long ways in preventing the Southern Federation’s efforts from being successful. [Southern Federation loses 2 ESP.] Southern Federation: 9 ESP (9d8)=34 Tamoanchan: 7 MOR + 5 ESP (12d8)=69

Southern Federation: 3 MIL (3d8)=16 Brazil: 2 MIL (2d8)=7 Andean Union: 2 MIL (2d8)=8 (TOTL. 31) Tamoanchan: 6 MIL (6d8)=28

Further east, Brazilian forces enter Venezuela unopposed, except for by hastily-assembled militias. Their rate of advance is rapid, and if they continue at the present rate, it is probable that Tamoanchan’s military forces will be forced to withdraw or be cut off.

The Lunar Empire has also given to all USC nations their blueprints for a fusion engine. [USC nations gain trait ‘Fusion Engine I’. Doubles speed to other planets. Does NOT stack with other engine types.]

People Helping People has begun to expand its operations, including in China, where it has been asked to aid in the reconstruction of Tibet. OOC: How linked to you do you want PHP to be? Completely secret as in the information broker, or publically known as an NGO linked to the Southern Federation’s philanthropic side?

Your recruitment drive has begun to draw people to the banner. OOC: A secret’s secrecy is inversely proportional to the people who know it. It’s fine if your entire nation knows it, but if that’s the case, then your isolationism really should be known internationally as a sham. That said, I’ll accept that your denouncement of Tamoanchan will have the necessary effect without requiring your people to be “in on it”, so to speak.[/QUOTE]

How did my research projects go?

I want the People Helping People to be publicaly linked. It's not controlled by the government, but it's based in the Southern Federation, and has support from the people.

Did my morale go into recruiting more soldiers or heloing my existing soldiers fight?

Most of the people probably don't know, but the ones in my intelligence agencies would. Since it was my largest asset I assumed that it was also the largest single employer in the Southern Federation. So a large proportion of citizens would know to some extent, but its their jobs to keep it a secret.[/QUOTE]

OOC: Thanks for that clarification. With that in mind, I can do this. [Southern Federation gains 1 REP.]

Morale went to recruitment.

Nah, not all stats are equal, per se, or rather, they're equal in effect rather than in volume. Plus, one of the first things intelligence agencies deal with is compartmentalization and "need to know". Presumably, most people don't have "need to know" access to high-level strategy and planning, just like in real life, so most people aren't told, precisely to keep security. If you want to breach that, it's fine, but it seemed like it would be contrary to what you wanted, and it will make infiltration much easier for no tangible gain.

Research projects as follows: Psionics - Some progress has been made in identifying the myriad genetic components that together comprise psionics, but more research into your genetic engineering project would help as well. You are also working on improving the strength of their telepathic abilities.

The British didn't mention any joint projects with the Southern Federation in their EoT, so I put everything into Psionics.[/QUOTE]

And the UK complained that no one helped them last turn. :smallmad: Well I guess I'll stick to my psionics then. Can I get an estimate from my scientists as to the status of the genetic foundation project?

I will leave my espionage alone. I already took more losses than I was expecting there. Don't need to make things worse.

I know this is kind of metagaming, but I have a question about my military recruitment. From my observations of previous turns every time I have tried to simply increase my stats in the past turns, I have done so at a rate of 6 t. for 1 p. stat, occasionally that 6 being invested over multiple turns. The exception being when a trait is being built instead of or as well as stats. So the question is, I put in 6 morale and it seems like it would be a straightforward enough investment. So why didn't I get out + mil? I can understand if you don't want to answer that or if there is something in the rules I do not know.[/QUOTE]

Half a year at the same investment, give or take on how the genetic engineering project goes. You started that project as well but never finished it, and you won't be able to genetically create or improve psionics without a thorough understanding of the human genome (which is not just the genes themselves, but what they actually do).

No problem. I'm actually tweaking MOR contributions to growth rates. Since it always contributes to ESP-D, can be spent on anything in addition to that contribution, provides a safety margin against the bad things that happen when it hits 0, and basically slices, dices, and juliennes fries, I'm looking at reducing its effect on stat growth for primary stats (shooty, buildy, spyey, and thinky). Because 100% increase rates on top of that seems really, really good.[/QUOTE]

Ah sorry when I said genetic foundation I meant the first genetic project I was working on since I meant it to be the foundation of all my eventual genetic work, not the genetic foundation of psionics project. Good to know how long that one will take too though.

Is there going to be any mention IC of the South American wars.

As long as I'm asking impertinent rules questions. :smalltongue: Is the fact that the PHP only gave me 1 rep for the same reason? If my records are accurate I've invested 4 esp, 4 rep, 2 econ, and 2 morale.[/QUOTE] It's kind of a side theater, really, but if you want, I can whip something up.

Correct, though in the case of PHP, it's because ESP as well has diminishing returns.

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=================================================================== From : Mistral To : ArcaneStomper Date : 2012-05-21 10:33 Title : Re: TW 2126: EoT 5

[QUOTE=ArcaneStomper][B]Traits[/B] Early Telepathy HeartSeed

[B]Stats[/B] MIL: 3 1. We will continue to hold the line in the Andean Union. Very likely the Tamoachan will be forced to withdraw some units in order to try and defend against Brazil's push, in which case we, and the Andean Union's troops, will launch an offensive of our own. If the Tamoachan don't bother defending, it does set them up to defeat in detail after all, then they will probably try and overwhelm the Andean Union's line. So my troops have orders to be ready for that as well. We'll provide the anvil for Brazil's hammer.

ECO: 2 1. Put all my money this turn into working on my space station. I kind of would prefer to be doing something else, but no point leaving a project unfinished.

ESP: 7 1. All my agents work at recruting more agents and improving various intelligence networks to repair the damage done by the Tamoachan counter intelligence units.

TEC: 7 1. 4 will go into my first genetics project that was going to be the basis for future genetics work.

2. 3 will go into my psionics genetics project. Unless the first one doesn't get done, in which case it goes in there.

MOR: 6 1. Continue to recruit more soldiers to bolster my forces and replace any potential losses. Propaganda should include a little bit of waving the flag, and also emphasize the evilness of the Tamoachan to prepare the ground for a potential total takeover with Brazil. Speaking of which did they ever lose rep for all this. They're at 1 now, but I don't remember if they were at 1 or 2 before.

REP: 3 1. Continue to spread the influence of People Helping People. I would like to note that I'm just supplying resources and backing, and don't have any particular spots to help in mind. They should be trying to help wherever they can do the most good.[/QUOTE] MIL: 3 ECO: 2 ESP: 8 TEC: 8 MOR: 6 REP: 3

The Andean War: As Brazilian forces transfer to the more successful Brazilian front in anticipation of the Tamoanchan counter-attack, the Andean Union and Southern Federation hunker down and prepare for the expected withdrawal. The assessment of the Southern Federation’s high command is on the mark; the Tamoanchan units begin a phased withdrawal on schedule. As they pull out their forces, the Andean Union and Southern Federation wait until they’ve withdrawn most but not all, then attack decisively. Caught by surprise, the Tamoanchan forces in the theatre are routed, entirely eliminated as effective military units. Andean and Federation units have reached the border at several points, and even crossed into Ecuador. The Andean military in particular is impressed with the performance of Southern Federation counterparts. [Tamoanchan loses 2 MIL. Southern Federation co-opts 1 MIL of the Andean Union.] Disengagement: (2) Andean Union: 2 MIL (13) Southern Federation: 3 MIL (12) (TOTL. 25) Tamoanchan: 2 MIL (5)

Brazil, unfortunately, reports that they have fared poorly in their own attempts. Having launched an offensive aimed at Caracas, a brilliant defense by the forces that were withdrawn from the Andean front managed to drive back literally twice their number in Brazilian attackers.

Your investment continues to improve your space station; new bays come online, increasing its transit capacity, and it seems that only minor investment will be necessary to complete the new expansion. OOC: Technically, your space station is complete; further investment is merely to introduce new expansions and capability to the facility.

Your investment in the intelligence network pays off, as your intelligence agents identify several promising candidates. [Southern Federation gains 1 ESP]

Pounding the war drum pays off as recruits flock to the banner. For the defense of the nation and its prosperity, the people are willing to accept a relaxation of the old strict isolation in order to protect the nation against the evils of Tamoanchan. OOC: I think they lost 1 REP, but I’m not sure.

People Helping People has been engaged in several areas of charity work, whether it’s aiding civilians in Tibet and the Shan state, or in improving health awareness in the Andean Union.

You receive a message from an unknown source, bearing the data signature of your information broker. He reports that he has improved his capacity. Unfortunately, few people seem to be contracting with Stichelhaar for intelligence work at the moment, so they haven’t had any work to pass on to him. [Information broker gains 1 ESP]

You complete your research into genetic manipulation. Having identified several key genetic sequences in the human genome as well as developing several new ways to introduce genetic alteration without introducing messy junk sequences in active chains, your scientists believe that future work in genetic alteration is now feasible. [Southern Federation gains 1 TEC, trait Genetic Manipulation]

Only minor research, overrun from the genetics project, goes into the psionics research, but they believe that application of your completed research will accelerate progress towards not just identifying, but actually creating psionic individuals as well.

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=================================================================== From : daelrog To : ArcaneStomper Date : 2012-05-22 00:18 Title : Re: Total War 2126: Research

[QUOTE=ArcaneStomper][B]To Project Earth[/B] As we said before we offer to sell you our research on genetic manipulation, and the archives we have developed of the human genome. We offer this for [+ t. econ].

(Grants Genetic Manipulation Trait, which I assume unlocks and makes less expensive future genetic research. That's what its supposed to do. Also granted me some Tec, but you'll probably have to invest your own stats for that.)

Now on to business. The scientists of the Southern Federation have made a startling discovery. We have managed to prove the existence of people with psychic potential. They are rare and fairly weak. So far they have only been able to use their powers over a distance of one or two rooms and only with each other. But the important thing is that it can be done.

Now with our genetics research we believe we can go beyond just searching for natural psychics. We believe we are on the verge of being able to create artificial psychics. Imagine the possibilities for the world, increased collaboration between scientists, no more language barriers, diplomacy will be smoother. As we are able to spread psychic abilities all walks of life will improve.

We wish to know if you are willing to help with this great endeavor. If you have your own projects or do not wish to be involved then we understand, but we do ask that you keep the existence of our psychics a secret. When our program is ready to grant all the world psychic abilities we will go public, but for now the technology is tainted by its association with T.E.L.E.P.A.T.H.[/QUOTE]

Yes, we will agree to pay + temp. economy for the results of your findings.

We too are interested in the potential of psionics as well. We will admit now that we are trying to gain the foundations of such knowledge through a trade with TELEPATH. We are aware of TELEPATH's ill repute, but we feel confident that should this trade happen, we can use it for the betterment of humanity. Should the deal prove frutiful, we will have psionics available and we can share such knowledge with you to hasten your efforts. If it does not, we will use the resources meant towards purchasing it towards developing our own psionic program alongside you.

Like you, we have kept our interest in psionics a secret. Given the number of wars and the expansionist policies by several nations, we feel a strong need to have a trump card, just in case.

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=================================================================== From : Mistral To : ArcaneStomper Date : 2012-05-22 17:13 Title : Re: TW 2126: EoT 5

[QUOTE=ArcaneStomper][QUOTE=Mistral][QUOTE=ArcaneStomper][B]Traits[/B] Early Telepathy HeartSeed

[B]Stats[/B] MIL: 3 1. We will continue to hold the line in the Andean Union. Very likely the Tamoachan will be forced to withdraw some units in order to try and defend against Brazil's push, in which case we, and the Andean Union's troops, will launch an offensive of our own. If the Tamoachan don't bother defending, it does set them up to defeat in detail after all, then they will probably try and overwhelm the Andean Union's line. So my troops have orders to be ready for that as well. We'll provide the anvil for Brazil's hammer.

ECO: 2 1. Put all my money this turn into working on my space station. I kind of would prefer to be doing something else, but no point leaving a project unfinished.

ESP: 7 1. All my agents work at recruting more agents and improving various intelligence networks to repair the damage done by the Tamoachan counter intelligence units.

TEC: 7 1. 4 will go into my first genetics project that was going to be the basis for future genetics work.

2. 3 will go into my psionics genetics project. Unless the first one doesn't get done, in which case it goes in there.

MOR: 6 1. Continue to recruit more soldiers to bolster my forces and replace any potential losses. Propaganda should include a little bit of waving the flag, and also emphasize the evilness of the Tamoachan to prepare the ground for a potential total takeover with Brazil. Speaking of which did they ever lose rep for all this. They're at 1 now, but I don't remember if they were at 1 or 2 before.

REP: 3 1. Continue to spread the influence of People Helping People. I would like to note that I'm just supplying resources and backing, and don't have any particular spots to help in mind. They should be trying to help wherever they can do the most good.[/QUOTE] MIL: 3 ECO: 2 ESP: 8 TEC: 8 MOR: 6 REP: 3

The Andean War: As Brazilian forces transfer to the more successful Brazilian front in anticipation of the Tamoanchan counter-attack, the Andean Union and Southern Federation hunker down and prepare for the expected withdrawal. The assessment of the Southern Federation’s high command is on the mark; the Tamoanchan units begin a phased withdrawal on schedule. As they pull out their forces, the Andean Union and Southern Federation wait until they’ve withdrawn most but not all, then attack decisively. Caught by surprise, the Tamoanchan forces in the theatre are routed, entirely eliminated as effective military units. Andean and Federation units have reached the border at several points, and even crossed into Ecuador. The Andean military in particular is impressed with the performance of Southern Federation counterparts. [Tamoanchan loses 2 MIL. Southern Federation co-opts 1 MIL of the Andean Union.] Disengagement: (2) Andean Union: 2 MIL (13) Southern Federation: 3 MIL (12) (TOTL. 25) Tamoanchan: 2 MIL (5)

Brazil, unfortunately, reports that they have fared poorly in their own attempts. Having launched an offensive aimed at Caracas, a brilliant defense by the forces that were withdrawn from the Andean front managed to drive back literally twice their number in Brazilian attackers.

Your investment continues to improve your space station; new bays come online, increasing its transit capacity, and it seems that only minor investment will be necessary to complete the new expansion. OOC: Technically, your space station is complete; further investment is merely to introduce new expansions and capability to the facility.

Your investment in the intelligence network pays off, as your intelligence agents identify several promising candidates. [Southern Federation gains 1 ESP]

Pounding the war drum pays off as recruits flock to the banner. For the defense of the nation and its prosperity, the people are willing to accept a relaxation of the old strict isolation in order to protect the nation against the evils of Tamoanchan. OOC: I think they lost 1 REP, but I’m not sure.

People Helping People has been engaged in several areas of charity work, whether it’s aiding civilians in Tibet and the Shan state, or in improving health awareness in the Andean Union.

You receive a message from an unknown source, bearing the data signature of your information broker. He reports that he has improved his capacity. Unfortunately, few people seem to be contracting with Stichelhaar for intelligence work at the moment, so they haven’t had any work to pass on to him. [Information broker gains 1 ESP]

You complete your research into genetic manipulation. Having identified several key genetic sequences in the human genome as well as developing several new ways to introduce genetic alteration without introducing messy junk sequences in active chains, your scientists believe that future work in genetic alteration is now feasible. [Southern Federation gains 1 TEC, trait Genetic Manipulation]

Only minor research, overrun from the genetics project, goes into the psionics research, but they believe that application of your completed research will accelerate progress towards not just identifying, but actually creating psionic individuals as well.[/QUOTE]

Still no actual boost from the morale?

Can I merge the intelligence broker's stats back into my main stats with no loss? He should have 2 espionage and 1 morale as far as I know.[/QUOTE] Not yet. REP alone to MOR is fairly low-effectiveness, particularly with a low REP.

Yes, you may do so at no cost, since you spun it off of yourself in the first place and made no use of it. Let me know in your EoT if you want to do so.

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=================================================================== From : Mistral To : ArcaneStomper Date : 2012-05-23 10:32 Title : Re: TW 2126: EoT 5

[QUOTE=ArcaneStomper][QUOTE=Mistral][QUOTE=ArcaneStomper][QUOTE=Mistral][QUOTE=ArcaneStomper][B]Traits[/B] Early Telepathy HeartSeed

[B]Stats[/B] MIL: 3 1. We will continue to hold the line in the Andean Union. Very likely the Tamoachan will be forced to withdraw some units in order to try and defend against Brazil's push, in which case we, and the Andean Union's troops, will launch an offensive of our own. If the Tamoachan don't bother defending, it does set them up to defeat in detail after all, then they will probably try and overwhelm the Andean Union's line. So my troops have orders to be ready for that as well. We'll provide the anvil for Brazil's hammer.

ECO: 2 1. Put all my money this turn into working on my space station. I kind of would prefer to be doing something else, but no point leaving a project unfinished.

ESP: 7 1. All my agents work at recruting more agents and improving various intelligence networks to repair the damage done by the Tamoachan counter intelligence units.

TEC: 7 1. 4 will go into my first genetics project that was going to be the basis for future genetics work.

2. 3 will go into my psionics genetics project. Unless the first one doesn't get done, in which case it goes in there.

MOR: 6 1. Continue to recruit more soldiers to bolster my forces and replace any potential losses. Propaganda should include a little bit of waving the flag, and also emphasize the evilness of the Tamoachan to prepare the ground for a potential total takeover with Brazil. Speaking of which did they ever lose rep for all this. They're at 1 now, but I don't remember if they were at 1 or 2 before.

REP: 3 1. Continue to spread the influence of People Helping People. I would like to note that I'm just supplying resources and backing, and don't have any particular spots to help in mind. They should be trying to help wherever they can do the most good.[/QUOTE] MIL: 3 ECO: 2 ESP: 8 TEC: 8 MOR: 6 REP: 3

The Andean War: As Brazilian forces transfer to the more successful Brazilian front in anticipation of the Tamoanchan counter-attack, the Andean Union and Southern Federation hunker down and prepare for the expected withdrawal. The assessment of the Southern Federation’s high command is on the mark; the Tamoanchan units begin a phased withdrawal on schedule. As they pull out their forces, the Andean Union and Southern Federation wait until they’ve withdrawn most but not all, then attack decisively. Caught by surprise, the Tamoanchan forces in the theatre are routed, entirely eliminated as effective military units. Andean and Federation units have reached the border at several points, and even crossed into Ecuador. The Andean military in particular is impressed with the performance of Southern Federation counterparts. [Tamoanchan loses 2 MIL. Southern Federation co-opts 1 MIL of the Andean Union.] Disengagement: (2) Andean Union: 2 MIL (13) Southern Federation: 3 MIL (12) (TOTL. 25) Tamoanchan: 2 MIL (5)

Brazil, unfortunately, reports that they have fared poorly in their own attempts. Having launched an offensive aimed at Caracas, a brilliant defense by the forces that were withdrawn from the Andean front managed to drive back literally twice their number in Brazilian attackers.

Your investment continues to improve your space station; new bays come online, increasing its transit capacity, and it seems that only minor investment will be necessary to complete the new expansion. OOC: Technically, your space station is complete; further investment is merely to introduce new expansions and capability to the facility.

Your investment in the intelligence network pays off, as your intelligence agents identify several promising candidates. [Southern Federation gains 1 ESP]

Pounding the war drum pays off as recruits flock to the banner. For the defense of the nation and its prosperity, the people are willing to accept a relaxation of the old strict isolation in order to protect the nation against the evils of Tamoanchan. OOC: I think they lost 1 REP, but I’m not sure.

People Helping People has been engaged in several areas of charity work, whether it’s aiding civilians in Tibet and the Shan state, or in improving health awareness in the Andean Union.

You receive a message from an unknown source, bearing the data signature of your information broker. He reports that he has improved his capacity. Unfortunately, few people seem to be contracting with Stichelhaar for intelligence work at the moment, so they haven’t had any work to pass on to him. [Information broker gains 1 ESP]

You complete your research into genetic manipulation. Having identified several key genetic sequences in the human genome as well as developing several new ways to introduce genetic alteration without introducing messy junk sequences in active chains, your scientists believe that future work in genetic alteration is now feasible. [Southern Federation gains 1 TEC, trait Genetic Manipulation]

Only minor research, overrun from the genetics project, goes into the psionics research, but they believe that application of your completed research will accelerate progress towards not just identifying, but actually creating psionic individuals as well.[/QUOTE]

Still no actual boost from the morale?

Can I merge the intelligence broker's stats back into my main stats with no loss? He should have 2 espionage and 1 morale as far as I know.[/QUOTE] Not yet. REP alone to MOR is fairly low-effectiveness, particularly with a low REP.

Yes, you may do so at no cost, since you spun it off of yourself in the first place and made no use of it. Let me know in your EoT if you want to do so.[/QUOTE]

Wait rep. I was talking about the military recruitment. That's two turns of 6 morale each.

The rep should be going into the PHP organization, I didn't expect anything there yet.

Also so building my space station didn't actually get anything stat wise? I thought it was incomplete because I hadn't received anything.[/QUOTE] Sorry, I was confused by your last question. I had thought PHP was independent at first, but your last response suggested to me that you wanted it (or rather, the rep investments in it) to help bolster your morale (since you were doing minor good deeds through it). I didn't know you were referring to the investment of your morale. As for the MIL, it seems to have been a minor oversight. [Southern Federation gains 1 MIL]

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=================================================================== From : Mistral To : ArcaneStomper Date : 2012-05-24 10:47 Title : Re: TW 2126: EoT 5

[QUOTE=ArcaneStomper]Ok another question real quick. I just saw that the Asian countries are planning to do a unified currency and open trade agreement, hurray for only having to beat the lowest espionage. Not just that, but they're thinking about moving to electronic currency which opens up some doors.

So my question is with that many countries working on the project would it be easier to slip in the cracks and infiltrate their currency systems. Or would the defensive espionage and morale be more cohesive and making it harder than infiltrating any one country.[/QUOTE]

Definitely easier. Cracking the weakest link will make it easier to break open the other links of the chain unless they add in safeguards against that. Given that they're actually reducing barriers between the countries, it should open some interesting possibilities, as you say.

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=================================================================== From : daelrog To : ArcaneStomper Date : 2012-05-24 20:45 Title : Re: Total War 2126: Research

[QUOTE=ArcaneStomper][QUOTE=daelrog][QUOTE=ArcaneStomper][B]To Project Earth[/B] As we said before we offer to sell you our research on genetic manipulation, and the archives we have developed of the human genome. We offer this for [+ t. econ].

(Grants Genetic Manipulation Trait, which I assume unlocks and makes less expensive future genetic research. That's what its supposed to do. Also granted me some Tec, but you'll probably have to invest your own stats for that.)

Now on to business. The scientists of the Southern Federation have made a startling discovery. We have managed to prove the existence of people with psychic potential. They are rare and fairly weak. So far they have only been able to use their powers over a distance of one or two rooms and only with each other. But the important thing is that it can be done.

Now with our genetics research we believe we can go beyond just searching for natural psychics. We believe we are on the verge of being able to create artificial psychics. Imagine the possibilities for the world, increased collaboration between scientists, no more language barriers, diplomacy will be smoother. As we are able to spread psychic abilities all walks of life will improve.

We wish to know if you are willing to help with this great endeavor. If you have your own projects or do not wish to be involved then we understand, but we do ask that you keep the existence of our psychics a secret. When our program is ready to grant all the world psychic abilities we will go public, but for now the technology is tainted by its association with T.E.L.E.P.A.T.H.[/QUOTE]

Yes, we will agree to pay + temp. economy for the results of your findings.

We too are interested in the potential of psionics as well. We will admit now that we are trying to gain the foundations of such knowledge through a trade with TELEPATH. We are aware of TELEPATH's ill repute, but we feel confident that should this trade happen, we can use it for the betterment of humanity. Should the deal prove frutiful, we will have psionics available and we can share such knowledge with you to hasten your efforts. If it does not, we will use the resources meant towards purchasing it towards developing our own psionic program alongside you.

Like you, we have kept our interest in psionics a secret. Given the number of wars and the expansionist policies by several nations, we feel a strong need to have a trump card, just in case.[/QUOTE]

If you can acquire the T.E.L.E.P.A.T.H. research data then we would like to propose a trade. A copy of their research for the results of our own psionics program. Likely they will be similiar, but any differences could be used to bolster both sides of our research.[/QUOTE]

It appears that the trade between TELEPATH and us will fall through. TELEPATH has been asking for unreasonable asking prices, either permanent stats (+ tech, -esp, -eco), or is offering their own psionics as mercenaries, a gross security compromise, especially given that they have been willing to stab a nation in the back in recentn history.

This time around we plan to contribute ++tech and + econ to supplement your own research into psionics in addition to the + econ to purchase your discoveries of the human genome.

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=================================================================== From : Mistral To : ArcaneStomper Date : 2012-05-25 11:14 Title : Re: TW 2126: EoT 5

[QUOTE=ArcaneStomper][QUOTE=Mistral][QUOTE=ArcaneStomper]Ok another question real quick. I just saw that the Asian countries are planning to do a unified currency and open trade agreement, hurray for only having to beat the lowest espionage. Not just that, but they're thinking about moving to electronic currency which opens up some doors.

So my question is with that many countries working on the project would it be easier to slip in the cracks and infiltrate their currency systems. Or would the defensive espionage and morale be more cohesive and making it harder than infiltrating any one country.[/QUOTE]

Definitely easier. Cracking the weakest link will make it easier to break open the other links of the chain unless they add in safeguards against that. Given that they're actually reducing barriers between the countries, it should open some interesting possibilities, as you say.[/QUOTE]

One last quick question.

Is it possible for me to send agents into the Hegemony and steal every bit of tech and econ they have left?

It has to be actual literal stealing as just taking control would leave it exposed to capture by the invading forces.

Second can I put a contingency in to divert some of the espionage used to other things if it turns out they don't actually have anything left worth stealing? I assume my agents would find out what was in the area as a preliminary step to the actual heist.[/QUOTE] 1. Depends on how much they invest in defense, and how much they have left in stats, but a lot of it isn't going to be easily moved by a handful of spies. Stealing a handful of researchers or engineers is one thing, but grabbing an entire factory or university complex is harder than it looks (just ask the Red Army). Besides, if I answer the question, you'll have an idea of how many ECO and TEC stats they have left. Sorry.

2. Yes, but the deployment times may preclude significant progress into the contingency.

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=================================================================== From : Mistral To : ArcaneStomper Date : 2012-05-25 11:36 Title : Re: TW 2126: EoT 5

[QUOTE=ArcaneStomper][QUOTE=Mistral][QUOTE=ArcaneStomper][QUOTE=Mistral][QUOTE=ArcaneStomper]Ok another question real quick. I just saw that the Asian countries are planning to do a unified currency and open trade agreement, hurray for only having to beat the lowest espionage. Not just that, but they're thinking about moving to electronic currency which opens up some doors.

So my question is with that many countries working on the project would it be easier to slip in the cracks and infiltrate their currency systems. Or would the defensive espionage and morale be more cohesive and making it harder than infiltrating any one country.[/QUOTE]

Definitely easier. Cracking the weakest link will make it easier to break open the other links of the chain unless they add in safeguards against that. Given that they're actually reducing barriers between the countries, it should open some interesting possibilities, as you say.[/QUOTE]

One last quick question.

Is it possible for me to send agents into the Hegemony and steal every bit of tech and econ they have left?

It has to be actual literal stealing as just taking control would leave it exposed to capture by the invading forces.

Second can I put a contingency in to divert some of the espionage used to other things if it turns out they don't actually have anything left worth stealing? I assume my agents would find out what was in the area as a preliminary step to the actual heist.[/QUOTE] 1. Depends on how much they invest in defense, and how much they have left in stats, but a lot of it isn't going to be easily moved by a handful of spies. Stealing a handful of researchers or engineers is one thing, but grabbing an entire factory or university complex is harder than it looks (just ask the Red Army). Besides, if I answer the question, you'll have an idea of how many ECO and TEC stats they have left. Sorry.

2. Yes, but the deployment times may preclude significant progress into the contingency.[/QUOTE]

Hmm, ok what about their espionage. Agents and codebooks are going to be a lot easier to move than entire factories. And they only have 1 morale so their agents shouldn't be all that loyal.

Plus I know they have at least 5 so I don't need to try and work in a contingency.

This would be less stealing and more trying to get them to flee a sinking ship and defect to my much better country.

Would the difference between morale and reps play into it at all?[/QUOTE] Making the assumption that they have 5 ESP, and assuming all of the circumstances I posited above, you might be able to take most, if not all of their ESP. If they invest anything in internal security, if the rolls don't go just so, if you attempt to hide your involvement so they (or the ITF) don't trace it back to you, or if your assumption on how much ESP they have is invalid, then the circumstances may change. Though, ODESSA is kind of an old conspiracy-nut standby, isn't it?

A little, but not very much unless you actively try to leverage your MOR or REP in the effort.